Ep 161 | What’s the 411 on 911 jobs?
Send us Fan Mail Lee Gilreath is the Criminal Justice Academy Instructor at West Florida High School. In this episode, he brags on his students, tells stories from his experience as a Miami cop and shares how this academy is facilitating excellence for future 911 dispatchers and beyond. Guest: Lee Gilreath Vote for Voices United in Education as "Best Podcast" 2026 in InWeekly's Best on the Coast! https://form.jotform.com/261185754425158 This helps connect local families with the resourc...
Lee Gilreath is the Criminal Justice Academy Instructor at West Florida High School. In this episode, he brags on his students, tells stories from his experience as a Miami cop and shares how this academy is facilitating excellence for future 911 dispatchers and beyond.
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You said that not all of your students are necessarily on the path to be a 911 phone operator, but your pass rate is 94%. So wait a minute, are all the students taking this test? Is it benefiting those not on a 911 phone operator career path?
SPEAKER_01It absolutely benefits them. Number one is even if you wanted to go be, say, a podcaster, right? And that's my career goal. And something happens that that is not available to you anymore. You are have received, you're you're certified by the state to be a 911 telecommunicator. There is always the option for you, even in a time frame where you're just searching for maybe another opportunity, you have a certificate that allows you to be employed anywhere in the state at the age of 18 that you can now fall back on, even if it's a fallback. You are certified to do that job.
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the Voices United in Education podcast. Each week we showcase the teachers, administrators, and community members who go the extra mile to contribute to the success of every student in Iskambe County. You'll meet the real people behind the titles and learn about the amazing resources to support every student's success. 911 Dispatch is a number no one wants staff to call, but everyone wants to be reliable. Not just the line, but the person on the other end of it. My next guest is not only ensuring trained professionals are ready when called upon, he's securing viable employment for the next generation. After 27 years of law enforcement in Miami, Florida, he moved to Pensacola, eventually stepping into the role of Criminal Justice Academy Instructor at West Florida High School. Today he's going to brag on his students and share how this academy is facilitating excellence. Cop to coach, coach to career builder, Miami to Pensacola, Lee Gilreath. Thanks for being here.
SPEAKER_01Meredith, it's great to be here.
SPEAKER_00I have a very deep and important question for you to kick this off. Are you ready?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Crockett or Tubbs.
SPEAKER_01Crockett. Okay. Only because of the outfit, to be honest with you, and the cars.
SPEAKER_00Okay. That is what I'm saying. It's all about the outfit for me.
SPEAKER_01The pastels back in the 80s, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And the flipped collar.
SPEAKER_01And that was, I was there.
SPEAKER_00You were there, exactly. Yeah. Miami and Pensacola are totally day and night. So why Pensacola for you?
SPEAKER_01We had family here. We traveled through in 2018, uh, going to New Orleans to visit family. My dad lived here in Pensacola. We stopped and just kind of fell in love with the community. Fell in love with the beaches here, honestly. I gotta tell you, the beaches, that sand here, much better than the South Florida beaches. And that's just a personal opinion.
SPEAKER_00I'm pretty sure that's scientific fact.
SPEAKER_01I probably has been proven, I would think, at this point. But just fell in love with the Pensacola community and started looking for houses. I hadn't even planned to retire at that point. And I think within about two and a half months, we had I had retired, we had bought a house here and moved here.
SPEAKER_00So then why teaching if you had retired? And I mean, usually when you think of people retiring, that's a relaxing season of life. And then you're like, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna be a teacher.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, one of the blessings of criminal justice was I started very young. I started at 21 years of age. So with my 25 years of experience, I was 46. And then I was able to do a couple of years in what's called drop. I was 48 years old and able to walk away from a career with a retirement. Uh got up here to Pensacola, spent a year uh with family and just enjoying the retired life, and then got a started coaching football up here in Pensacola, which I had done in South Florida, and uh got a call about a job opening at Westport High School teaching criminal justice. And, you know, something in the back of my head kind of went, oh, I just threw away all of those things from law enforcement from my 27 years. Just had gotten rid of all files and all kinds of stuff, and here's this job opportunity. But I went in and interviewed, and they called me right back and said, Hey, would you like this job? And uh so yeah, I've always enjoyed teaching and seeing the progress, whether it was coaching, so seeing somebody learn something and then go from there. And so that it was kind of a fascinating thing.
SPEAKER_00My grandmother used to say that you know, teachers are teachers in their heart, whether or not they're teachers in their profession.
SPEAKER_01And that is true. And I think you know once you step foot into a classroom, whether it's a classroom teaching law enforcement officers, which I did, or stepping into a classroom of students that that impressionable mind, you just have a feeling that's where you belong.
SPEAKER_00And your dad and stepdad were both cops. And obviously you are a cop. For students that are considering that path, how do you feel it's different then versus now?
SPEAKER_01From the law enforcement perspective, things have changed. But I but when I look back when I came into law enforcement in 1991, that's a long time ago, I think we were saying the same thing, or the officers then were saying the same thing. It's really changed from when we started. The reality is there will always be a need for law enforcement. There will always be a need for people that need that response. And whether it's over a 911 call or whether it's that officer responding to the door, we have students and we have people in our community that want to help. And that is the a great profession. The reality is you're there to help somebody in need.
SPEAKER_00So tell me about your students now. What are they like what's their mindset? What are they wanting? Are they all wanting to be police officers? Or, you know, paint a picture for me of who's in your class at the moment.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So that the interesting thing is I came in five years ago into the academy, and I've seen the progression back to a majority of the students now having some type of interest within the criminal justice profession. Our academy is not strictly just to be a law enforcement officer, as we're here to discuss. You can learn to be a 911 public safety telecommunicator. So that person that takes that 911 call or that dispatches those police officers to your scene. But we also have students that want to be lawyers. We have students that want to do accounting. We have a medical, the medical field. All of those things, somewhere within the criminal justice profession, though, there are opportunities for them for employment in that field. It's not just you have to be a law enforcement officer. So there's accountants that work for law enforcement agencies. So the biggest thing that I've seen with the students now is we're probably at a ratio of about 60 to 40. 60% have some kind of interest within the criminal justice profession. The other 40% ended up in the academy. And it gives them that opportunity over four years to say, there is something maybe in criminal justice that I can do. Or for those 60% that say, I really want to be a law enforcement officer, they may come out and say at the end, not for me. And I believe that's what our academies are designed to do is let's kind of figure out what you like or don't like while you're still in this environment before you get out there and start actually an agency hires you and then you realize this isn't what I want to do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Are the medical and the accounting, is that forensics?
SPEAKER_01Well, a lot of the forensic side is the biology, the chemistry, so the sciences. Anything math-related, though, there are crime scene investigators that do traffic homicide scenes that involve a lot of math. So they're they're really within criminal justice, you can incorporate all those STEM sciences, right? The science, technology, right, engineering, math, all of that can be encompassed within the criminal justice profession. But the majority of these students that I have now are really focused on being a lawyer, being something within the criminal justice profession, but again, not necessarily carrying a badge and a gun every day.
SPEAKER_00Aaron Powell Well, it's a broader scope than I think I realized, and maybe others too. Does that also include social justice people, like those that would want to work more in like a rehabilitation aspect, or is there is that part of the scope as well?
SPEAKER_01And I do have some of some students that have an interest in sociology, criminology as a study or as a research. And yeah, it can include that. What they get in this academy is the broad understanding of our criminal justice system, both from and I and I everything I do, I try and pair it. Here's the law enforcement side, but then here's the civilian side. So we have some great discussions in the classroom. I mean, of all topics that you wouldn't even believe. And the biggest thing that I bring in the classroom is as long as we can respect, and this goes into that criminal justice profession, whether it's in a courtroom or out on the street, you still have to respect people. And as long as we can respect our classmates and understand that you may have an opinion that I don't, and I have an opinion that you don't, and that's okay. If I if they come out of this class just even understanding that, I think we're better for that.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. That's I mean, that's major. That's we're already on thing number two that I didn't expect, right? Because I didn't expect that there would be that education of how to engage in a civil way, like with people that maybe you have strong emotional reactions to what they're saying or doing.
SPEAKER_01Oh, absolutely. I mean, I've had previous I've had students in previous classes where just total ends of the spectrum, which is great. That's who we are as people. It's seeing them over the course of the four years becoming that person that can listen to another side because it again, back to law enforcement. You're gonna have to listen to multiple sides of a story, and you really can't take sides. You have to pull out the facts of what's there, and that's what goes in the report. It's not an opinion on what you believe as a law enforcement officer, it's what are the facts that are in front of you that you can see. And so it's trying to get those students to understand I have to respect whatever that opinion is, and I need to put what's fact down on paper. It's not what I believe, it's the facts that come for that call or for that scene.
SPEAKER_00I mean, kind of what you're talking about is identifying personal biases within pockets of subjects and you know experiences. Is that an official part of the curriculum or is that just uh Mr. Gilreath bonus?
SPEAKER_01Well, no, it it is an official, it is part of the number one, understanding cultural differences is part of our curriculum within the Criminal Justice Academy. It's a four-year academy, so we cover a variety of topics. From year one, they get a lot of constitutional law, a lot of what the courts and correctional systems do. When we get them into year two as a sophomore, they're learning about the road officer. What is the job that those officers do? Within that, we talk about use of force. We talk about, hey, here's a scene or here's a situation, here's what the courts allow the officers to do, here's what the officers did, here's what the media shows. And let's look at all of that together and then let's make a decision based on what the court, what our courts allow, what our laws allow, and what the law enforcement policy allows. So they get that understanding. So that's and then they do all kinds of fun hands-on things. I mean, we do some room clearing of buildings, they do traffic stops, they do, they learn how to do a DUI traffic stop. So they get a lot of involved participation with, you know, the sheriff's office here in our community. Scambia County Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Chip Simmons is incredible with everything that he dedicates officers. We we have a great relationship, which is really good for the kids to see as well. So the students get to interact with sheriffs and police officers on a level that's not normal. Because normally we're dealing with an officer when we've been pulled over or when they've been called to our house. Here, they're getting to interact with an officer in an environment that is more relaxed. And so they get to see that full thing. So that's year two. Year three, they get into investigations. What does a detective do? What does an ATF agent do? What does an FBI agent do for the first part? And then we go into crime scene and forensics, which they really love. Again, a lot of hands-on. How do you do a tire impression? How do you do fingerprinting? How do you do right? All the cool things about crime scenes. So they actually process a crime scene. And so that really encompasses what that profession is. So year one is more of the law, and that's the lawyers, the wannabe lawyers really love that. And then year four, we get in the 911 Public Safety Telecommunicator, which is an incredible opportunity for them to be certified. They get certified by the Florida Department of Health as long as they pass the end of curriculum test that allows them to be certified by the state to be a dispatcher or call taker within any agency in the state of Florida.
SPEAKER_00What's the pass rate for that?
SPEAKER_01Um, I would say statewide, it's probably in the 80%, 75% range. We started off year one that we did this. We've been doing it for three years now. We were at around 75 or 80% year one. Year two, we jumped up to right about 90%. I believe we're at 88.8. And then now year three, we're at 94%. What? Yes, it's incredible. And it's just watching these students, the celebration and the excitement in their face when they see they've poured in a lot of time because it is a 232-hour course that they have to complete before they're able to test. So we get that done as a double block in their senior year.
SPEAKER_00So year one through three, it's the regular time frame for a class. And then that fourth, it's like go time and it's two hours.
SPEAKER_01That's right. So year four, I get them two periods in a row in a double block class. So it's actually three hours every other day. So they get to see a lot of Mr. Gilry, and it's really intense up until the time that they take their test. But we've been very successful in getting them to that point to where that they where they can pass that test.
SPEAKER_00Now, you said that not all of your students are necessarily on the path to be a 911 phone operator, but your pass rate is 94%. So wait a minute, are all the students taking this test? Is it benefiting those not on a 911 phone operator career path?
SPEAKER_01It absolutely benefits them. Number one is even if you wanted to go be, say, a podcaster, right? And that's my career goal. And something happens that that is not available to you anymore, you are have received, you're you're certified by the state to be a 911 telecommunicator. There is always the option for you, even in a time frame where you're just searching for maybe another opportunity, you have a certificate that allows you to be employed anywhere in the state at the age of 18 that you can now fall back on, even if it's a fallback. You are certified to do that job. And it's a two-year certification, it's uh updated every two years, but it's something that is there. So if you may not want to, you may, or in the case of law enforcement in the state of Florida, you have to be 21 in most counties to be a law enforcement officer. This gives you that opportunity now for three years to go work for the agency, gain full employment, benefits, the opportunity for college to be paid for in most agencies in the state after a year of employment. So it gives you a lot of different opportunities that might not be available to you at 18 walking out without that certificate.
SPEAKER_00That's pretty major too, because if, you know, 18-year-old you or 17-year-old you has your eye on something and you have to wait three or four years to us, that's nothing, no big deal. But to 18-year-old us, that would have been huge. Think about how your life changed from 18 to 21. I mean, mine was drastically different. So this can keep them on a viable path, even if they change their mind about becoming a cop or a lawyer, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01Again, and that's all part of it. It's still a, I think any type of education, just you if you have a four-year degree in mine happens to be in criminal justice, but if you have a four-year degree in sociology, that doesn't mean you're gonna go work and be a sociologist. But you have attained something that is there, that you have the knowledge and the information to always fall back on that. And that's something that can't be removed. It can't be taken away from you, and it's an accomplishment. I think that's the other big thing here is you know, I think the school district is united in education, right, for the success of every child. Well, that right there is a success is a success. You've passed a 232-hour course that is difficult that some people don't pass. And you've shown that you can do something, and now you've got that opportunity to go work as soon as you step out of high school, which we actually have happening right now.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01Yes. One of our students from last year's graduating class earned her certification, and she's currently employed by the Escambia County Sheriff's Office as a 911 public safety telecommunicator. It's huge, it's great.
SPEAKER_00That must be so satisfying for you.
SPEAKER_01It is, and for her, I texted her with her the other day, and when she made it through her complete training, and I just said congratulations, and she was just thank you so much. And but it's that opportunity because let's face it, for a lot of these families as well, as a dispatcher or a call taker, you're coming out. I think the average is about $22 an hour in Escambia County. That puts them right in the median income of most of our, you know, families in the community, what they're making. So you're 18 and now you're gainfully employed, you have the opportunity for benefits. And for that student that maybe says, I want to go to college, but I don't have that opportunity. I don't have the money to do that right now, and I don't want to take out loans. Well, these age our agencies here in both Pensacola and the Scamba County Sheriff's Office, they have in-kind service. Like, so when you are employed for a year, they will reimburse your tuition as long as you pass those classes for college. So here's another way that certificate is now helping further your education, because now you can go get a degree and have it paid for, basically, depending on the grades that you get.
SPEAKER_00Not to mention they're still being connected to people kind of in that field. So if, you know, they have you heard this that whatever, you know, you're air quote supposed to do with your life, you would you are probably interested in a version of it as a child. That's tricky because now a lot of the jobs that exist did not exist when we were children. And that will con that'll be a trend that continues. But those core interests are there. So if that stays true for a student who gets the 911 certification and is working as a dispatcher, then they could not only get some of their further education covered, but also just be around people who are doing things in that field. Because sometimes you just don't know the positions that are available. Like something might be the perfect fit for you, but not obvious when you know you're asked, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like, a cop, a fireman, you know, that not obvious like that. Maybe they're like, oh, I really want to be fill in the blank with some lesser known position, but that's just like the fit for them.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. What I really see, you asked earlier about like what do they want to be? A lot of the students that are in the academy. I think technology, number one, but TV has a huge impact on both law enforcement and firefighting professionals. And I see the shows that are out there. And you could just name the forensic shows that so that's what you have a lot of students initially come in, like, oh, I want to be this, or I want to, you know, forensics, or I want to do this. And then I'll start relaying some stories about, okay, here's what an actual crime scene looks like, and here's the actual time it takes to get DNA back. It's not like on the one-hour episode that you see and DNA comes back right away, and we can go arrest the suspect. Sometimes it takes months or even years for DNA matches to come back. I mean, now technology has sped that up some, but so bringing that reality too of the flash that you see on TV or in movies, and the reality of what the criminal justice profession is, that those stories. So I try and infuse some, you know, some stories here and there from my time in law enforcement with them.
SPEAKER_00Do you have go-to stories that you pull from?
SPEAKER_01There there's a couple. One is that I don't know if anybody's seen that movie, Patriots Day, uh, with Donnie Wahlberg. I think it's Donnie Wahlberg or Mark Mark Wahlberg. It's about the Boston bombing. But in the very beginning of that episode, there's a he's a detective and he gets into an apartment and there's an individual that is injured, and he asks what happened. Somebody asked, What happened to him? And he says, Well, she hit me with the smooth. And I I started laughing the as soon as I saw that. So I tell the students this too. My first, one of my first calls as a rookie officer, and this must have been 92 or 93. I I walk in, I get to a call, an individual comes out of a house, he's bleeding from the head. And we'll get to, well, what happened? And he says, Well, we were an argument, and she hit me with the smooth. And I'm like, a smooth? Well, it's a smooth, you know, the smooth. And for the life of me, he's bleeding from the head, and I can't picture it. And a smooth. And he says, You know, the thing you smooth your clothes with, the iron. And I'm like, the iron? Gotcha. Watching that in a movie 10 years later, right, when Patriots Day comes out for the Boston bombing, and I'm like, I lived that scene. And so I try and there's all there. I mean, I could go on and on with stories. Sitting in a car as a supervisor, supervising a narcotics deal that we're buying both narcotics and guns in a housing project in Miami with an undercover officer. And you you I might not have an eyeball on him, somebody's got an eyeball on him, but I've got the audio because he's recording everything. And there's moments within those deals where you're like, oh, please let nothing happen right now. And so the seriousness of that situation, and here I am, again, I kind of translate that to the 911 call because really the dispatcher is that first responder. They're getting a call, they're getting information, but they can't see. And they don't really know the outcome of what happens. I get to know the outcome. But sitting there and just listening to my officer, and you're saying, okay, hopefully nothing happens here, and then they come out and it goes good. So I get that understanding of everything's good. And so I have to translate that to now these students that as a dispatcher, you don't get to know if everything's good or not because you have to go onto that next call that comes in. And so within my teaching, we when within one of the actual curriculum for the 911 dispatcher or the program is a mental health and wellness section because that becomes huge within criminal justice right now, anyway, and law enforcement, mental health and wellness. So that's incorporated in, but I kind of feel like it's a benefit for them, whether or not they go into this career or not, to get that mental health and wellness, a little bit of it now. Hey, here's how I can self-help myself in those stressful situations. Right now we're in exam week. I'm stressed out about taking an exam. Well, I remember Mr. Gilbert said I can do this self-guided medication or medication, self-guided.
SPEAKER_00No self-guided medication today.
SPEAKER_01Self-guided meditation. And that will allow me maybe to be able to focus again and calm down enough that I can get through to the next thing. And I think that's super important because I don't think we did that well enough, even in my time in law enforcement, started changing towards the end. Now, a lot of agencies, they have mental health and wellness officers, they have mental health and wellness programs. And I think that really is going to help the profession of retention and keeping people involved in these jobs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about that for your personal experience because you were a cop in Miami in the 90s during the AIDS epidemic, the height of the crack cocaine problem. Then you were a communications shift commander during Y2K. That's a real blast. And then you became a full-time teacher during COVID. So, I mean, because you didn't have that, the benefit of having a you teaching you guided meditation, how did you deal with all those uncertain time frames?
SPEAKER_01You know, I think part of it was you have to be able to compartmentalize well because you still have to function. I again, there are our military veterans, there's a lot of them here in Pensacola. They've seen things probably that not even I have seen after 27 years of law enforcement in Miami. And I think the best thing that I was able to do is I had the support of family that I could come home and didn't necessarily share some of the, I don't want to say evil things, but the dark things that you know I saw in my career. And there was some things, and I do share this with the students because I do want them to understand criminal justice all isn't, oh, I do this and I can go home. There are things that you deal with as a society, even, that aren't that aren't pretty. So for me, I have just been able to, through my faith, through my wife and my family, they were just the there was a support there. And I think that's what's important is even for these young 18-year-olds, can they do the job of a 911 dispatcher and remain mentally healthy? Absolutely. Because I believe that the functions that are in place now, the foundations for mental health and wellness, they have quiet rooms for them. They have sit, you know, rooms that yes, it's really transitioned over the last probably 10 years as far as the mental health industry and its impact in criminal justice.
SPEAKER_00That's amazing. Well, and I also am thinking about your stress set point, right? So, like you're giving them tools and they have this job as a 911 dispatcher, and they're able to calibrate their stress set point to have a higher threshold potentially, right? And so that they can not only metabolize that stress in a healthy way, not in a, you know, pushing it down and never dealing it with, but actually metabolizing it, but also having a higher threshold of what would be considered a bad day for them.
SPEAKER_01And I think having heard stories, having we actually play live dispatch tapes for them as well, or recorded dispatch tapes that happen live. I think that knowing what you're walking into before you walk into it sometimes is a preparation as well. So it allows them, okay, I can do this, or it allows them to know I can't. And that's okay too, because this job is not for everyone. And that's the purpose of what we do is I can or I can't. And even like you said earlier, the cer certification. So, okay, I realize I can't do this job, but now I've got this certification. Well, you're only 18. And at 18, you might not, but at 24, there might be a time when you say, I hey, I know I could do this, and now I'm I think I'm ready to do that. So there is a maturity there. And I every 18-year-old is different, every 25-year-old is different. I was again back to it, I was just able to handle what I saw. And again, today, the technology, the what these students see out there in public anyway, on our technology devices, I think sometimes is a hindrance, but also with this career particularly, you're gonna look at six big TV screens, be able to type, talk, listen to conversations around you, listen to what's going on the phone, listen to the background noises, right? And put it all together, these students can do that, like no up. Where somebody like me, that's hard to do if you're from our generation. But if you're from this student's generation, that tip piece of technology that's constantly in their hand, known as a phone, they do it every single day. That's not the problem for them when it comes to this job.
SPEAKER_00That's such a good combo to have the wisdom of your lived experience combined with their, you know, what so many of us consider their bad technology habits and being used for good, which actually was a question that I wanted to ask you because you are in your fifth year of teaching, and so like our world is so different just in this past five years. We've seen normalization of mental health support, which is a plus. We've seen more cybercrime, right? Deep fakes, all kinds of ugly things, virtual court hearings. We saw a housing boom, we've seen too few workers, we've seen too few jobs. Do you have any predictions for what the criminal justice landscape might look like five years from now?
SPEAKER_01I want to say the trend is that agencies are having more success in their recruitment efforts right now for law enforcement officers. I think in the legal field, lawyers there has not been a drop-off of people that want to be lawyers. Criminal justice, I believe there was a drop-off right from 2000, probably 18 to about 2022, 23. Several things happened in our society that really turned a black eye onto law enforcement. But I believe right now most agencies are having more success in recruitment. I think retention is hard, depending on where you look at around the country. I know from the state of Florida, I think the la one of the later numbers that I saw was 25% of all 911 dispatch or call taker positions go vacant. So that's one out of four. If you think every four positions, one is vacant currently. I think the trend will be the state of Florida has put a lot of emphasis. I think Governor DeSantis, two years ago or a year ago, recommended, we didn't write in the law, but that every county in the state have at least one 911 public safety telecommunicator program within their high school curriculum or within their high school districts. I don't know if that's mandated or anything, but we are, again, putting these students out there. So the goal is to that we can take a high school student in our community, keep them within our community, and have them serve these vital roles. Five years down the road, I would hope that we have been able to eliminate or reduce that down from 25%, maybe into that, you know, less than 10% average.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that is definitely the hope. Well, we're so appreciative that you're a part of that, not just in a, you know, putting butts in seats way, but like right now, and certainly compared to the past, we consider an innovative way, a way that includes mental health discussions, that includes civil discourse. I mean, these are all things that we all wish for our society, but I don't think any of us would have guessed it could be found in a criminal justice academy. So thank you for that.
SPEAKER_01Well, thank you.
SPEAKER_00This has been a fantastic discussion. I'm gonna link everything in the show notes. And yeah, here's hoping for the next five years that we will have less than 25%.
SPEAKER_01Well, I appreciate y'all. Thank you.
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